Legislature(2007 - 2008)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/06/2007 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 35 EXTEND BOARD OF MIDWIVES TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+= HB 48 RETIREMENT BOARD PURCHASE PPT CREDITS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 48(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ HB 67 MUNI PROP TAX EXEMPTION FOR POLICE HOMES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 67                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     An Act relating to an optional exemption from municipal                                                                    
     property taxes on certain residences of law enforcement                                                                    
     officers.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MAX GRUENBERG, SPONSOR,  noted that HB  67 is                                                                   
the  same  as  HB 52  offered  in  the  previous  legislative                                                                   
session.   The  bill encourages  municipalities  to adopt  an                                                                   
ordinance that designates an area  within their boundaries as                                                                   
an area exempt from taxation,  not to exceed $150,000 dollars                                                                   
for  residential  property,  owned  and  occupied  by  a  law                                                                   
enforcement officer.   Not more than two exemptions  could be                                                                   
granted through  the bill as an  expense to a  municipality -                                                                   
no State  funds would be  used.    The ordinance  defines law                                                                   
enforcement  officer in  accordance with  specifics of  State                                                                   
law.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster  noted veteran's exemptions,  which are                                                                   
not funded  by the State.   Representative Gruenberg  said it                                                                   
would  not be a  mandate but  rather "allows"  passage  of an                                                                   
ordinance.   Representative Foster referenced other  bills of                                                                   
this nature & worried about all  other professions that would                                                                   
want  to be  included.   Representative  Gruenberg stated  it                                                                   
does  not  include  any  other  people  and  that  none  have                                                                   
requested to  be included.  The  purpose of the bill  is only                                                                   
to encourage law  enforcement officers to buy &  own homes in                                                                   
higher crime areas.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster referenced  an  on-going problem  with                                                                   
one of the University  of Alaska regents.   He added concerns                                                                   
with a  "bad cop" in Nome,  responsible for killing  someone.                                                                   
Representative  Gruenberg  acknowledged there  is  no way  to                                                                   
make certain if there is a "bad cop" on the force.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:09:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara said the  concern could be  addressed by                                                                   
adding a provision  regarding someone convicted  of a felony.                                                                   
Representative Gruenberg  advised that a person  convicted of                                                                   
a  felony would  have a  difficult  time getting  hired as  a                                                                   
police officer.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  appreciated  the  idea  of  having  law                                                                   
enforcement officers living in  high crime neighborhoods.  He                                                                   
stated that in  the current form of the bill,  the definition                                                                   
of  eligible   neighborhoods,  Page   2,  Line  9,   is  "any                                                                   
neighborhood  that has  the slightest  difference, more  than                                                                   
the community average for crime".   He recommended it be more                                                                   
narrowly  defined.   Representative  Gruenberg indicated  the                                                                   
language had been recommended,  reiterating the purpose is to                                                                   
address  areas   that  really  do  need   police  protection.                                                                   
Representative  Gara  suggested that  there  are  a few  core                                                                   
neighborhoods    that    need    officers    living    there.                                                                   
Representative Gruenberg thought  it should be left up to the                                                                   
municipality to  make the determination.   The  bill attempts                                                                   
to provide flexibility to the municipalities.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:13:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Stoltze  suggested that tying anything  to federal                                                                   
standards makes it  difficult as the standards  do not always                                                                   
apply  to  Alaska.   Co-Chair  Chenault  explained  that  the                                                                   
eligibility  requirements were  put into  the legislation  to                                                                   
define  areas within cities  needing police  officers.   Many                                                                   
neighborhoods have  police officers living there.   Deferring                                                                   
crime  is the  intent of  the  bill.   He agreed  it was  not                                                                   
preferable  to tie  it  into federal  programs  and that  the                                                                   
effort is to include areas needing  officers.  Representative                                                                   
Gruenberg added  that ultimately,  the decision will  be left                                                                   
to the municipal assemblies to  determine what the crime area                                                                   
should be.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:18:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster applauded the  intention of  the bill,                                                                   
however, noted  it is strictly  an urban  bill.  There  is no                                                                   
incentive  for  the Bush  areas.    Representative  Gruenberg                                                                   
acknowledged that  there are no  taxes in some of  the areas,                                                                   
and that he would support any  ideas to help police move into                                                                   
those  places.   The bill  was  drafted for  places that  can                                                                   
offer it as an  incentive.  It does apply in  Kenai, which is                                                                   
considered a rural area.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault acknowledged  that it  does affect  Kenai,                                                                   
which  has no  city police  but  rather troopers  circulating                                                                   
through   the  area.     He   pointed  out   that  Kenai   is                                                                   
approximately  25 miles from  the Trooper  Academy.   Most of                                                                   
the new  recruits,  live in the  Soldotna area.   Having  the                                                                   
troopers  living 25-miles  away,  poses many  problems.   The                                                                   
bill  would  provide   Kenai  the  option,  which   would  be                                                                   
beneficial to  his area.  He did  not know how it  could help                                                                   
other areas.   There  is nothing in  the bill that  prohibits                                                                   
any  other place  in the  State from  assisting their  police                                                                   
officers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:22:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster  followed up, pointing out  that in the                                                                   
Bush,  there are  not many  police or  troopers but  instead,                                                                   
armed officers  such as federal  fish and game personal.   He                                                                   
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noted  that Nome  is  classified as  a 1   class  city.   The                                                                   
legislation  will  pass  the  expense  on  to  city  taxes  &                                                                   
property owners.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gruenberg clarified  that the  bill does  not                                                                   
apply  to  rentals,  only home  ownership.    Home  ownership                                                                   
implies settling  into an area  for a longer period  of time;                                                                   
the intent  is to  encourage police to  own their  own homes.                                                                   
He  pointed out  that  brown shirts  and  Peace Officers  are                                                                   
defined in  AS 01.10.10060; referenced  on Page 2, Line  2 of                                                                   
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:26:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault discussed the  issues in Kenai, reiterating                                                                   
that  given  the  location  of  the  training  facility,  the                                                                   
trained  personnel  intend  to   relocate  when  training  is                                                                   
complete and that the training facility is 25 miles away.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  noted that the bill provides  the option                                                                   
to the  cities.   He believed  that discrimination  should be                                                                   
provided to  renters also.  Representative  Gruenberg replied                                                                   
that  all property  exemptions  must be  authorized in  State                                                                   
legislation.    If it  were  extended  to renters,  it  would                                                                   
become an administrative  headache.  He preferred  to keep it                                                                   
to  only  home  owners  & that  anything  else  should  be  a                                                                   
separate bill.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:29:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara thought that  the municipalities  who do                                                                   
not have  a local  property tax could  take advantage  of the                                                                   
option, offering  an allowance to allow the  landlord to rent                                                                   
to a  peace officer, making  it more applicable  to different                                                                   
areas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara reiterated  his  concern  that the  bill                                                                   
accomplishes the intent of the  sponsor.  He pointed out that                                                                   
the high petty  crime rate exists in downtown  Anchorage.  He                                                                   
inquired if the bill intends to  address high petty or felony                                                                   
type crimes.   He  recommended  that a "high  crime area"  be                                                                   
defined as an area  with at least a 25% occurrence  of higher                                                                   
felony crimes.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gruenberg  replied that for  the statistically                                                                   
higher occurrence of crime, the  municipality would clarify a                                                                   
percentage.  The  legislation is not limited  to felonies and                                                                   
can include misdemeanors, vandalism,  and juvenile crimes not                                                                   
falling into felonies.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:33:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  supported  the legislative  intent  but                                                                   
suggested  that current  wording  might  encourage people  to                                                                   
move into downtown in order to  get a property tax exemption,                                                                   
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because 4  Avenue is a high crime  area.  The way the bill is                                                                   
written,  a city  would not  be  allowed to  define an  area.                                                                   
Representative  Gruenberg said  that was  not the intent  and                                                                   
that he did  not want to define  high crime areas as  an area                                                                   
in the top 75%.   The intent is to give the  municipality the                                                                   
authority to define it more narrowly.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:35:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  inquired if a  husband and wife,  both police                                                                   
officers, would  qualify for a $300,000 dollars  property tax                                                                   
allowance.    Representative Gruenberg  replied  correct;  it                                                                   
would be  $150,000 dollars for  each officer, limited  to two                                                                   
living  in the  same  household.   They  do  not  have to  be                                                                   
married.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster pointed out  that in Nome,  nearly 59%                                                                   
of the residents  do not pay property tax.   He worried about                                                                   
a population minority  responsible for paying  all the taxes.                                                                   
Co-Chair Meyer agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:37:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  SMITH,  DEPUTY  CHIEF   OF  ADMINISTRATION,  ANCHORAGE                                                                   
POLICE  DEPARTMENT,  ANCHORAGE,   shared  comments  that  the                                                                   
Anchorage  Police Departments  agrees that HB  67 could  be a                                                                   
useful  tool for  incentives to  officers to  live in  higher                                                                   
crime  areas.   About  ten years  ago,  there  was a  federal                                                                   
program in  which some  of the  officers did take  advantage.                                                                   
The thought  is that  the program would  not be largely  used                                                                   
but would be a useful tool to some younger officers.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze asked  the number  of officers  living in                                                                   
areas  that  might   qualify.    Mr.  Smith   did  not  know,                                                                   
indicating that the  bill does not define areas.   He did not                                                                   
know of any police officers living in Mountain View.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze worried about  the public outrage  at the                                                                   
incentive  being  offered.    Mr.  Smith  agreed  with  those                                                                   
observations noting that a high  level of police officers now                                                                   
live in the Chugiak - Eagle River  areas.  He reiterated that                                                                   
most  likely,   it  will  be  the  younger   officers  taking                                                                   
advantage of the opportunity.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:43:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  VAN   SANT,  (TESTIFIED  VIA  TELECONFERENCE),   STATE                                                                   
ASSESSOR,  DEPARTMENT  OF COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC                                                                   
DEVELOPMENT, ANCHORAGE,  addressed concerns on  Page 1, Lines                                                                   
8 & 9.  He advised that all property  exemptions in the State                                                                   
turn  on  the  ownership  &  eligibility  requirements.    He                                                                   
indicated that  Representative Gruenberg's support  to delete                                                                   
"in whole or part", removing concerns of the Department.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:46:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer understood  that  in Anchorage,  if a  senior                                                                   
couple owns  property, they are  limited to $150,000  dollars                                                                   
per  property, while  HB 67  proposes that  a police  officer                                                                   
couple be eligible  for $300,000 dollars.  Mr.  Van Sant said                                                                   
yes that was true under the proposed bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:47:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gruenberg  asked   if  Mr.   Van  Sant   was                                                                   
recommending deletion  of "in whole or part" on  Page 1, Line                                                                   
8  and Line  9.   Mr.  Van  Sant said  they  both agree  with                                                                   
deleting  it on  Line 8;  on Line  9,  without deletion,  the                                                                   
officer  could claim  occupancy  in more  than one  dwelling.                                                                   
Representative  Gruenberg  argued  against  deletion  of  "in                                                                   
whole or part" on Line 9, noting  the language "primary place                                                                   
of abode"  would be the one  primary property.  Mr.  Van Sant                                                                   
agreed, retracting the original request.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:50:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara inquired if  a whole condominium would be                                                                   
exempt   if    a   police   officer   owned    the   complex.                                                                   
Representative  Gruenberg  explained  that  each  unit  is  a                                                                   
separately  owned piece  of  property.   Representative  Gara                                                                   
argued  that the  definition of  parcel refers  to the  whole                                                                   
building.  Representative  Gruenberg advised that  the intent                                                                   
is not to give an exemption to the entire complex.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:52:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Van  Sant  clarified  that  the  parcel  refers  to  the                                                                   
individual unit.  He added that  if a police officer occupied                                                                   
one unit of a duplex, was it intended  that the entire duplex                                                                   
be exempted.    Representative Gruenberg  responded that  the                                                                   
$150,000  dollars would  apply  to the  one tax  unit or  the                                                                   
entire parcel if the officer lived there.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:55:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  expressed concern that police  officers would                                                                   
be  given  a greater  exemption  than  seniors  and  disabled                                                                   
veterans.    He  asked  if  the  sponsor  would  support  one                                                                   
exemption per  building.  Representative  Gruenberg responded                                                                   
that he would support the Committee's decision.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:57:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gruenberg pointed  out that there has not been                                                                   
a single  officer  living in Mountain  View  for the past  10                                                                   
years;   he   thought   the  bill   would   encourage   those                                                                   
neighborhoods to have an officer presence.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:59:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara expressed  concern that the  legislation                                                                   
would not  give the discretion  to the municipality  to carve                                                                   
out   areas    where   they   want   officers    to   locate.                                                                   
Representative  Gruenberg  agreed  that  additional  language                                                                   
could be  added, clarifying  that "the  ordinance may  exempt                                                                   
all or part of any of the areas."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:00:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  requested that Representative  Gruenberg, Co-                                                                   
Chair  Chenault,   Representative  Gara,  Mr.   Cohen  &  Ms.                                                                   
Cunningham work together, to address  crime levels & how that                                                                   
relates to  the bill.   He supported  the policy  proposed by                                                                   
the legislation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:01:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson  expressed support for  the legislation                                                                   
and  stressed  that  rural  areas  have  a  similar  goal  of                                                                   
attracting   Village    Public   Safety   Officers    (VPSO).                                                                   
Representative   Gruenberg  noted   that  he  would   support                                                                   
legislation toward that goal.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:03:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  noted that  city  councils could  have                                                                   
latitude  to provide  incentives  for VPSO's  in  terms of  a                                                                   
sales tax  waiver.  Representative  Gruenberg noted  he would                                                                   
support such an addition.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  did  not think  statutory  change  was                                                                   
necessary, stressing  the need to provide information  to the                                                                   
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:07:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas  spoke in support of  rural incentives.                                                                   
Representative  Gruenberg noted that  a tax exemption  is not                                                                   
considered  income.    Property  taxes  are  deductible  from                                                                   
income for tax purposes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  acknowledged that the legislation  provides a                                                                   
local option opportunity.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 67 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                                                                          

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